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odin    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   Sacred Marriage          posted February 22 2008 at 12:03:12       
In part 3 of the article “Samson” Mircea A Tamas writes that the sacred wedding symbolizes the Supreme Identity. Now there seems to be some confusion here, because the sacred marriage has always symbolized the Androgyne which is the restoration of the primordial state. The male (spirit) and his bride (soul) are joined together in equilibrium. Furthermore in order that this may take place there are three trials that must be undergone, which pertain to the elements water, fire, and air, before resorption into ether. After the marriage, we must note that the carrying of the bride over the threshold represents the breaking through the solar gate. Since this is merely the start of the greater mysteries and the marriage itself is anterior to it, the marriage therefore cannot be the Supreme Identity.
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Karnak    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   RE: Sacred Marriage          posted October 30 2010 at 19:55:16       
It is important not to fall into a systematic point of view regarding the symbols. The sacred marriage can symbolize the fulfill of the lesser mysteries, but also higher levels related to the higher mysteries. It is necessary to let place to the inexpressible.
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mtamas    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   RE: Sacred Marriage          posted October 27 2010 at 07:50:44       
Indeed, there is some confusion, but only from a modern point of view. In fact, the Real Marriage was always the one that united male and female to produce the Neutral state, which is Brahma. Even if we cannot really talk about “male” and “female” beyond the formal manifestation, these terms can still be used because in the informal domain there still is a type of distinction and separation (sex comes from Lat. seco to cut, to separate); this is why there are gods and goddesses (the informal manifestation still contains “conditioned” states, which are “conditions” of Âtmâ). The Real Marriage is the union between Shiva and Shakti (and also the union between Dante and Beatrice, after Dante covered the Greater Mysteries). The Three Worlds correspond to Corpus, Anima and Spiritus, and the union between Anima and Spiritus is only a virtual union in the Earthly Paradise, the real one is after the Greater Mysteries, when the super-individual states (reigned by Spiritus) are assimilated. Also for the “solar gate,” there is some confusion that René Guénon solved in his article Janua Coeli. The real “solar gate” is the gate between Cosmos and Non-manifestation, where Cosmos contains all the Three Worlds, including the super-individual states, which are beyond the Earthly Paradise. The real “solar gate” leads beyond the Sun, which is the Principle, leads to this neutral domain of Brahma, infinite and absolute, and the “gate” that leads to the Greater Mysteries is just a “determination,” a “projection,” or an “image” of the real gate. The problem with the modern thinking is that it is limited by an “earthly” perspective, which means that even if it admits the existence of the Spiritus and not only of the Anima, it tries to make it something extra-Cosmic, because it understands the Cosmos only as our individual world. In fact, the Cosmos contains also the super-individual states, and so the most interesting domain is the one beyond the Cosmos, which is the Non-manifestation, and where the real “solar gate” is placed. It is true that the Occidental initiatory ways (Hermeticism, Masonry, etc) have as target the Earthly Paradise and the accomplishment of the Lesser Mysteries, but for this reason we should not be limited in reading the symbols. We should be aware that always the lesser can symbolize the greater, as the Androgyne symbolizes the neutral Brahma. And we should always strive to go beyond the religious goal, and as High as possible.
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jme17580    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   RE: Sacred Marriage          posted October 26 2010 at 19:48:21       
Agreed.

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Originally posted by odin:
In part 3 of the article “Samson” Mircea A Tamas writes that the sacred wedding symbolizes the Supreme Identity. Now there seems to be some confusion here, because the sacred marriage has always symbolized the Androgyne which is the restoration of the primordial state. The male (spirit) and his bride (soul) are joined together in equilibrium. Furthermore in order that this may take place there are three trials that must be undergone, which pertain to the elements water, fire, and air, before resorption into ether. After the marriage, we must note that the carrying of the bride over the threshold represents the breaking through the solar gate. Since this is merely the start of the greater mysteries and the marriage itself is anterior to it, the marriage therefore cannot be the Supreme Identity.

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Awlwan    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   RE: Sacred Marriage          posted July 14 2010 at 19:14:45       
It's whatever factors there are in one's life experience that causes for symbolic utterances from the divine that call for Supreme Identity
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mtamas    
Describes the mood or content of the topic   the Androgyne          posted October 16 2011 at 18:21:12       
To understand how the symbolism of the Androgyne applies to both Earthly and Heavenly Center, see Rene Guenon,Le symbolisme de la croix, Guy Trédaniel / Éditions Véga, 1989, pp. 27, 43-4, 146-7.
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